PS4 Pro: The Ultimate FAQ

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PS4 Pro: The Ultimate FAQ

PlayStation is introducing a new choice for console gamers with PS4 Pro, a powerful addition to the PS4 family. It’s designed to offer heightened gaming experiences, whether via your existing HDTV or a new 4K TV.

With its increased performance over the standard PS4, PS4 Pro represents a first for PlayStation — and in many ways, for console gaming. We’re excited by this vision, but we know many of you will have questions. That’s why we’ve built our latest Ultimate FAQ below.

This FAQ will serve as a living document, and we’ll continue to add new questions, details, and specifics leading up to launch on November 10 in North America. If you have questions that aren’t addressed, leave them in the comments below and we’ll add ‘em to the list.

In the meantime: it’s time to get to know PS4 Pro!

New questions added Nov. 3, 2017

Q: What type of buttons are on the front of PS4 Pro?
The buttons are mechanical.

Q: Is there anything else I should know if I own both PS VR and PS4 Pro, and a 4K TV?
If you’re playing a normal, non-VR game on your PS4 Pro, PS VR’s Processor Unit will output a 4K signal to a 4K TV — but in the YUV420 format only. The Processor Unit does not support HDR pass-through, so you will need to plug your PS4 Pro directly into your TV (bypassing the Processor Unit) to view HDR content.

Q: Can I use my PS4 Pro as a “second” primary account?
No, you can only choose one PS4 device to be your primary account.

Q: Can I install a new hard drive in my PS4 Pro?
Yes. As with both models of the standard PS4, you can replace PS4 Pro’s stock 1TB, 5400RPM hard drive relatively quickly and easily using just a Phillips head screwdriver. You will need to select a 2.5’’ (laptop PC sized) hard drive that is no more than 9.5mm thick.

Q: Are there any other changes to PS4 Pro’s hard drive interface?
Yes, PS4 Pro supports the faster SATA-III specification.

Q: Do 4K TVs suffer from increased input lag?
Not necessarily, but the phenomenon known as “input latency” or “input lag” may be an important consideration if you are considering buying a new TV to be used with gaming. The amount of latency differs by TV.

Many TVs feature a “Game Mode” or the like in order to reduce this latency as much as possible, but this performance can vary (e.g. by deactivating special features like HDR). If possible, try to test out a new TV before buying it, connecting your PS4 or PS4 Pro to get a sense of its overall gaming performance. In-depth professional reviews or user reviews can also be valuable.

Q: Can I use an external HDD with PS4 Pro?
As with the standard PS4, PS4 Pro does not support external HDDs for storing game files, but you can use it for storing a system backup, media storage, or save files.

Q: Does PS4 Pro support rendering in full, native 4K?
Yes. While PS4 Pro supports outputting a native 4K signal, many developers are leveraging powerful rendering technologies including a process called “checkerboard rendering” to best balance the heightened clarity of a native 4K signal with other rich graphical features and a smooth performance profile.

PS4 Pro: Basic Questions

Q: What is PS4 Pro?
PS4 Pro is a high-end version of PS4 that is capable of outputting 4K graphics, HDR support, smoother and more stable framerates, and 4K video streaming. Upon its launch, PS4 Pro will make supported PS4 games look better and run more smoothly, while giving developers an upgraded toolset to create even richer, more detailed game worlds. How these powerful new tools are used is up to individual developers and the experience they are creating. You may have seen some of these examples during PlayStation Meeting 2016.

It’s important to note that PS4 Pro is not another generation of console. It won’t make your current PS4 games obsolete, and it won’t split the PS4 player base. PS4 Pro is very much a part of the PS4 family.

Q: When will PS4 Pro be available, where, and for how much?
PS4 Pro will launch in the US and Canada on November 10 for a suggested retail price of $399.99 USD ($499.99 CAD).

Q: Will PS4 Pro have separate or exclusive games?
There will not be any PS4 Pro-exclusive games. Because PS4 Pro and the standard PS4 are members of the same family, both systems will be fully compatible with all past, present, and future PS4 titles, including PlayStation VR. All PS4 games are PS4 Pro games, and vice-versa.

Following PS4 Pro’s launch on November 10 in North America, virtually all new PS4 game releases moving forward will be able to take advantage of PS4 Pro capabilities on day one, or in some cases shortly after launch via a downloadable update. Some titles previously released will be updated to take advantage of PS4 Pro features, including Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, The Last of Us Remastered, Infamous Second Son First Light, Shadow of Mordor, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and more.

Q: Will all PS4 games be compatible with PS4 Pro?
Yes, all existing PS4 games are fully compatible with PS4 Pro. Developers are able to add PS4 Pro enhancements to previously released PS4 games via a downloadable update if they choose to.

Q: Will I need to pay to update my existing PS4 game with new PS4 Pro features?

A: While nothing specifically prevents publishers and developers from this, we don’t anticipate it at this time. Software updates enabling PS4 Pro features on any existing first-party title (such as inFamous First Light or Uncharted 4) will be free.

Q: Will SIE continue to sell and support the standard PS4?
Yes. PS4 Pro is an evolution of the PS4 generation platform, which will continue to include the standard PS4 system. PS4 Pro was designed for gamers who want to be at the forefront of gaming innovation. Whether you decide to purchase the new system or continue playing on the standard PS4 system, you’ll enjoy the same games that make PlayStation the best place to play.

Q: Will PS4 Pro require a 4K TV?
No. PS4 Pro can display much higher resolutions than the standard PS4 when using a 4K TV. But if you own an HDTV (720p, 1080i, 1080p), PS4 Pro can still improve your gaming experience.

Q: What benefits does PS4 Pro provide when played on a non-4K HDTV?
PS4 Pro offers benefits even if you play on a HDTV that isn’t 4K. Depending on how the developer chooses to use the increased processing power, games with PS4 Pro support are able to render higher or more consistent framerates, increased environmental and character model detail, improved overall visual quality, and other related visual enhancements. For a look at how games are using the power of PS4 Pro, watch some of the first game footage on our YouTube page.

Additionally, PS4 games that render below native 1080p (maximum quality for HD TVs) on the standard PS4 can be elevated to render at full native 1080p on an HDTV.

See below for a chart detailing how PS4 Pro will display based on different TV types.

4K content 2K or less than 1080p content
2K TV Optimized to 1080p If less than 1080p,
upscale to 1080p
4K TV If 4K (2160p), display as is Upscale to 4K (2160p)
4K/HDR TV If 4K (2160p), display as is
If content is HDR supported, display in HDR
Upscale to 4K (2160p)
If content is HDR supported, display in HDR

Q: What resolutions does PS4 Pro support?
On 4K TVs, games are capable of running at up to 4K (3840 x 2160 pixels, also known as “2160p”) resolution. On HDTVs, games will run at 1080p.

Q: Will PS4 Pro be compatible with my existing PS4 downloaded games, saved data, and PlayStation Network Friend lists?
Yes. PS4 Pro exists in the same digital ecosystem as the standard PS4 in all regards; two PS4 console systems, one PlayStation Network, one PS4 community. This means you can start playing a game on your PS4 Pro, upload the saved data to online storage using PS Plus (sold separately), and pick up your progress on a standard PS4 in another room. It also means that all content and saved data that you already own on PS4 are fully compatible with PS4 Pro on day one.

Q: What if I already own a standard PS4? Is there an easy way to transfer my games, saved data, and Share captured content from a standard PS4 to PS4 Pro?
Yes. You will be able to copy your games, saved data, captured videos and screenshots, system settings, and other content from a standard PS4 to PS4 Pro using a standard Ethernet cable. This process will also work from standard PS4 to standard PS4, PS4 Pro to standard PS4, and PS4 Pro to PS4 Pro provided that both units have system software update 4.00 or higher installed, and the same PSN account is signed into both systems.

Alternatively, you can log-into PSN with your PS4 Pro, access your games and content library, and re-download your previously purchased games and content. Of course, your saved data in online storage will transfer as well.

Q: Will the PS4 Pro system introduce any improvements to DUALSHOCK 4?
The latest version of DUALSHOCK 4 will be included with PS4 Pro, as well as the new slimmer standard PS4. But it does not introduce any significant new functionality. The new DUALSHOCK 4 allows the light from the light bar to emit on the touch pad, making a new luminous line that illuminates in the same color as that of the light bar. It also supports USB communication in addition to Bluetooth communication. Existing DUALSHOCK 4 controllers going back to the launch of PS4 are fully supported on PS4 Pro; the updated DUALSHOCK 4 will, in turn, be fully supported by every PS4 model.

PS4 Pro: Technical Specifications

Q: How does PS4 Pro compare to the standard PS4?
PS4 Pro is significantly more powerful than the standard PS4 model. PS4 Pro’s advanced graphics processor unit incorporates many features from AMD’s latest “Polaris” architecture, as well as some fully custom hardware innovations, and is considerably more powerful than the GPU included in the standard PS4.

All in all, this increase in processing power enables developers to tap into far more demanding visual features for PS4 Pro owners, including smoother or more stable framerates, support for 4K rendering, advanced graphics features, and more.

Q: What video output settings does PS4 Pro support?
At launch, PS4 Pro supports all of the HD video output settings found on the standard PS4. Notably, PS4 Pro introduces 4K output, with settings for both 2160p YUV420 and 2160p RGB (recommended if your TV supports it) at up to 60 frames per second when using a supported 4K TV and Premium High Speed HDMI Cable.

Q: Does PS4 Pro support High Dynamic Range (HDR)?
Yes, PS4 Pro is fully compatible with the HDR10 specification at launch. HDR10 is a widely supported HDR format embraced by major entertainment companies.

Q: What is HDR?
High Dynamic Range, or HDR, is an emerging display standard that allows for massively increased color depth and greater contrast compared to Standard Dynamic Range, the decades-old specification currently employed by traditional HDTVs. In general, HDR-enabled content played on an HDR-compatible TV produces a noticeably fuller, richer image, that’s closer to what the eye naturally sees. That means much deeper black levels that retain finer details; brighter, more dazzling highlights; and a much wider color spectrum than is possible on older HDTV technology.

It’s actually impossible to demonstrate the true benefits of HDR technology here because you need an HDR-enabled screen and content to experience it. You can, however, watch this video from Sony that shows some simulated before-and-after scenes.

Q: Will PS4 Pro include support for Dolby Vision HDR?
There are currently no plans to support Dolby Vision.

Q: Does PS4 Pro require any specialized equipment?
Only if you want to experience 4K and HDR. Otherwise, no. Like the standard PS4, PS4 Pro fully supports existing HD TVs (720p / 1080i / 1080p). PS4 Pro can also output a 4K signal on supported 4K TVs when using a Premium High Speed HDMI Cable (one will be included with PS4 Pro). To enjoy HDR features, you’ll need an HDTV that’s compatible with the HDR10 format, and HDR10-enabled games or content.

Q: Outside of higher gaming performance, 4K TV features, and support for 4K video streaming, are there any other benefits to PS4 Pro?
Yes. PS4 Pro will come standard with a 1TB HDD, faster Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac), and a third USB 3.1 Gen.1 port on the rear of the unit. PS4 Pro’s more powerful hardware can also benefit PlayStation VR games, enhance streaming features such as Share Play and Remote Play, and enable higher resolution output for media captured using the Share button.

In most other ways, PS4 Pro will be very similar to the standard PS4. This includes the user interface and functionality.

Q: Why do I need a Premium High Speed HDMI Cable for using PS4 Pro on my 4K TV?
For maximum quality, you’ll need a PS4 Pro system, a 4K TV with a Premium HDMI input port (often marked in blue), and a Premium High Speed HDMI Cable. Users can of course use the HDMI Cable is included with PS4 Pro, but those who need to purchase a longer cable should remember to get one that meets the Premium High Speed HDMI spec.

The newer Premium High Speed HDMI format can display a 4K signal at up to 60 frames per second (60Hz). When using older High Speed HDMI Cables, users may experience issues such as flickering TV screens or images being displayed incorrectly.

Q: Is there anything else I need to know about PS4 Pro support on my 4K TV?
Given that 4K display standards and HDR features are still cutting edge, we recommend that you carefully consult your 4K TV’s manual and other reference materials to fully understand its capabilities.

Q: Will PS4 Pro support PlayStation VR?
PS4 Pro will fully support PlayStation VR just like the standard PS4. It’s important to note that PlayStation VR’s integrated display tops out at 1920 x 1080; it does not support 4K output. Also, the PS VR headset does not support HDR features.

That said, PS4 Pro’s upgraded processing power will give VR developers the ability to enhance their experiences with higher quality graphics, smoother or more stable framerates, and visual improvements in supported games. Developers can also choose to add PS4 Pro features to PS VR games post launch via a downloadable update.

Q: Which PS VR games will support PS4 Pro features?
As neither PS VR nor PS4 Pro has launched at the time of publication, we’ll wait until closer to PS4 Pro’s launch to begin confirming these titles.

4K Entertainment

Q: Does PS4 Pro support Ultra 4K Blu-ray Discs?
No, PS4 Pro’s internal Blu-ray drive does not support the new Ultra 4K Blu-ray Disc format. It supports the same Blu-ray Disc specs as the standard PS4. The Blu-ray Disc Player application, however, will support high-quality upscaling of DVD and Blu-ray Disc content.

Q: What 4K entertainment options will PS4 Pro support?
4K streaming apps for Netflix and YouTube are in development. Though 4K streaming is still in its early days, other services are likely to offer 4K video content in the future as well.

Q: Will there be any 4K PlayStation Store movies or TV shows?
There are no plans for this at PS4 Pro’s launch, but the PlayStation Network team is looking into it.

Other Questions

Q: How large is PS4 Pro, physically?
PS4 Pro is slightly larger than the original PS4 model introduced in 2013, and will measure approximately 295×55×327 mm (width × height × length).

Q: Will PS4 Pro owners have a performance advantage in online games when competing against standard PS4 players?
Generally, no. Playtesting and balancing is up to each game developer, and while it’s true that PS4 Pro’s more powerful hardware can drive smoother or more stable frame rates in supported titles, developers have many tools and processes they can use to prevent imbalances.

Q: Will there be any changes to Remote Play or Share Play with PS4 Pro?
Yes, PS4 Pro’s increased processing power can offer significant streaming benefits if the internet bandwidth is fast enough. Remote Play users on PC, Mac, or Xperia will be able to stream gameplay from a PS4 Pro system at up to 1080p. Share Play users on a standard PS4 or PS4 Pro will also be able to stream gameplay from a PS4 Pro system at up to 1080p.

With both Remote Play and Share Play, PS4 Pro’s adaptive streaming technology will attempt to optimize streaming quality to make the most of available internet bandwidth. For the best experience, we recommend a 15Mbps or higher connection and using a wired Ethernet connection (not Wi-Fi) whenever possible.

Q: Will the Share button capture higher quality game content with PS4 Pro games?
When playing a game with PS4 Pro features, using DUALSHOCK 4’s Share button will generate higher resolution gameplay clips and screenshots compared to the standard PS4. Specifics will vary by game, but some games will support full 1080p video capture, and screenshots at up to 3840 x 2160 (4K) pixels.

Q: Will I be able to Broadcast my gameplay at higher settings?
Yes. At launch, you will be able to broadcast a YouTube stream at as high as 1080p and 60 frames per second.

Q: Are Sony’s new 4K TVs a good fit for PS4 Pro?
While we won’t provide a specific recommendation for PS4 Pro at this time, Sony has a long history of designing TVs with advanced technology, and that reputation has extended to the 4K TV realm.

Q: What size 4K TV should I get?
We can’t give an official recommendation on TV size due to variables in room size, seating distance, and media types. 4K games and movies can feature up to four times the total resolution of a 1080p signal, so to take full advantage of 4K’s greatly increased fidelity, you’ll want a 4K TV that’s big enough to show it off comfortably.

Unofficially, the staff of PlayStation.Blog has observed good results in average living rooms with 4K TVs sized 60’’ and up. If you’re in the market for a new 4K TV for PS4 Pro, we strongly recommend selecting a model with HDR10 compatibility, which will enable increased image vividness and contrast in HDR10-enabled games and movies.

Q: If I’m using PS4 Pro on a 4K TV, and I’m playing a PS4 game without PS4 Pro features. Will it still output in 4K?
Yes, older PS4 games without dedicated PS4 Pro features will output at 4K when played on PS4 Pro and a supported 4K TV using a Premium High Speed HDMI Cable. You will not, however, see any visual benefits without support for PS4 Pro features.

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  • Sony why do you don’t include BD tech on the PS4 Pro????? That’s your technology!!! Re-think that move guys, don’t let Microsoft take advantage of your technology, because 4k support without BD?? Is not business Sony…

  • I had no idea that 4K BluRay was such a big deal. It’s disappointing that it’s not included, but I’m very surprised to see so many people saying that it’s a deal breaker. I figured everyone would be pretty excited for the better CPU and GPU. Those are the two most important things for proper gaming.

  • Great now we’ll get gimped versions of games on the old PS4 to force us to buy a new console less than 3 years after buying the PS4. Wonderful. If this is how consoles will turn out i guess it won’t take long for PC to dominate unfortunately.

  • Great job Sony! I will be buying the PS4 Pro after the holidays. Really excited to get this beautiful console in my house. Thanks for not incluidng the 4K Bluray and keeping the cost down. I don’t buy Blurays so it would have been wasted for me. Streaming is the future and now.

  • I pre-ordered from Best Buy as soon as it became available. Then I found out the PS4 Pro wouldn’t have a 4k blu ray drive. Now I have to go back and cancel that pre-order. This was the sole reason I was going to upgrade from my old PS4 to the Pro. Sony’s decision to exclude the 4k drive is a HUGE mistake. This is going to be a deal-breaker for many, myself included. Long-time playstation fan, but I’m sorely disappointed in Sony now.

    I’ve actually been holding out on buying a 4k blu ray player for months now in anticipation of the “Neo” release. Complete fail to give Xbox a 1-up on you there. Microsoft has made it clear that they aim to take the crown with their upcoming Scorpio. You seem to be giving away the battle. I root for Sony in every generation…this is just conceding a loss and giving Microsoft a good number of sales.

  • Well i will be buying one within the week it’s out lol

  • If my 4k tv does not support hdr will it still be in true 4k resolution 3840×2160 resolution on ps4 pro?

  • Will we be able to use a 3rd party HDD like we were able to with the previous model? I know it comes standard with a 1TB HDD, but I’d rather keep my 2TB and not have wasted the money.

  • Will it be backwards compatible with PS3 and older games

  • Is there anyone at Sony that can answer this? I want to ask if it is a hardware update on the controller that allows the new Dualshock 4 to have USB input, or is it the new Slim and Pro console making this possible? Would I get USB input with the new Dualshock 4 if I use it on the original PS4 console?

    I couldn’t find any journalists asking these questions, but they are very important for me as I need a new controller.

  • When will we be able to pre order the new dual shock 4 controller, and does the new Playstation camera comes with the Playstation VR bundle?

  • Sort of confused… So i have a 1080p Tv i use with my ps4, which I’m guessing run outs 30 fps..? If i got the PS4 Pro could i still use 1080p at 60 fps..? if so I’m about to get this lol

  • Will they be fixing that disc eject issue? That’s my only real concern.

    • @Axle – This was resolved as far as I can tell with the CUH-1200 series (as they use physical touch buttons instead of touch sensitive buttons).

      Admittedly I can’t tell if the console buttons on the CUH-2000 (slim) and the PS4 Pro use physical buttons or not, but I would CERTAINLY hope so considering I’m pretty sure they learned their lesson with that revision haha.

      Either that or if they are going back to touch-sensor, maybe they fixed the faulty design.

  • Two questions:

    A) You say broadcasting is capped at 1080p60, but what about recording gameplay? Will we be able to record gameplay to the hard drive at 4k to export to other stuff?

    B) This is a very niche use case that I certainly wouldn’t do, but I’m still curious- if for whatever reason someone wants to run a PS4 game on the Pro as if it was running on a standard PS4 instead of the Pro, would we be able to flip that switch?

  • One of the reasons I bought a PS4 was that it was more powerful than the Xbox One. How do you let Xbox one up you guys now with the Scorpio?

  • I have a 4k tv that support 4k at 30hz. Will Playstation 4 Pro support 4k playback on a set like this?

  • Can you buy the controller seperate and use it for the Normal PS4?

  • Scorpio will be more powerful and have 4k bluray where the ps4 pro will not. Might just have to switch.

    • Switch to play 3 UHD movies and games your passed up for 3+ years. Dat’s a smart move and really shows Sony that movies are more important than games to gamers.

  • Alright, so for those of us with regular HDTVs it’s basically “makes the game a little prettier.” Yeah, not dropping another $500 for that. MAYBE if there was a trade-up option. I’m happy enough with the regular PS4 for now.

  • Can we still upgrade the system to a bigger hard drive?

    I currently have a 2 terabyte hard drive in my PS4 and I was curious if I could transfer that into the PS4 Pro instead of going through the laborious, and very slow, act of downloading all of the games and updates again.

    If that kind of personal upgrade is still supported, that would be great.

    • hope it will be possible, I also have a 2 Tb on my ps4. you can transfer from 1 PS4 to another one by backing up your HDD on a portable HDD and transfer it on the console again.

  • “Q: Does PS4 Pro support Ultra 4K Blu-ray Discs? – No”

    A joke. That’s what that is. A joke.

    • Sony is the one that came up with Blu-Ray format makes it even more of a joke. “most people stream 4K content”…yeah and some people may be getting into 4K and wanted a next-gen console too.

  • I am going to buy a PS4 Pro, I will also get my friends to buy some so we can have much fun, Thank you :)

  • Sony – unbelievable decision not to have blu ray hdr support. This is going to back fire massively… you have been warned!

  • am I going to be able to change the HDD for a bigger one?

  • 1TB drive?? Fail again. Should have been at least 2TB minimum for a “pro” console. 1TB is nothing either if you do all digital downloads.

  • Pro? It’s the professional version of a PS4? I liked Neo better.
    I probably will only buy it when my current ps4 dies.

  • PLEASE!!!!!!!! WE NEED UHD DISC.

  • Why not a 2TB for the pro doesnt make sense to put 1 TB when some games are 55GB will fill up with maybe 7-8 games.
    Also why we cant play 4k movies on discs doesn’t make sense to me ok you can stream them but I dont want to clog up my ps4 hdd to save movies onto it. I want to fill it up with games and watch a 4k movie on a disc than put it back in its case when its done.

  • I seem to remember a time when a lot of people were piling on the original XB1 for being too much of an entertainment console, and the PS4 was for serious gamers. Now many of those same folks are piling on the PS4-Pro, for not having a UHD drive, which is essentially an entertainment feature. I’ve had a XB1-Slim 2Tb since launch and don’t own one UHD blu ray still, so for me, I’m interested in the games, visuals and performance the PS4-Pro brings to the table, not this silly take my ball ($) and go home argument over it not having a UHD drive.

    Technology constantly moves forward and I don’t expect any one piece of hardware to do everything but that’s just me. If a UHD blu ray player is that important, buy a separate one, or get a XB1-Slim and have the best of both worlds for now, pretty simple.

    • Or, Sony could have simply spent the $15.50 per unit to include a UHD BD-ROM drive as a means to, you know, support actual 4K video with its 4K console.

  • Shuhei Yoshida mentioned on Twitter that the theatre mode included with Playstation VR results in a loss of visual fidelity.

    Will using theatre mode with a PS4 Pro system doing the heavy lifting mitigate this?

  • TITLE: |Ok, here’s my thing| (Don’t judge me for making the title and comment)
    DESCRIPTION: |So, I’ve had my PS4 for 2 years this December. Which means, the warranty is going up, and I’ve been needing another one a bit, so I think one for my bedroom, one for the living room, all good… I wish they remade the remote better, but yeah. So, I’ll look into it.

    • @ThePaw-e – The Dualshock 4 is actually getting an upgrade. It is minor, but the new DS4 will support wired controller operation over USB (if you prefer not to use Bluetooth) and has the slim color-bar over the touchpad.

  • Hi Sid, thanks for this post!

    Personally my opinion of the PS4 Pro has completely changed. My gut was “WHAT? No UHD Player!?” like everyone else. However the more I think of it, this approach to the Pro is really the smartest move.

    Keeping the cost down for a mid-generation upgrade is smart, and Sony has been clear from the start. Their focus is on the games. To have a more expensive console for a potentially niche movie market is risky, and for many 1440p / 1800p etc. upscaled to 4K will be more than satisfactory.

    If anything I hope the compromise is that Sony releases an external UHD drive via USB 3.1 down the road for the Pro. THAT would be great. That said, my questions:

    Q: Is the 1TB HDD included with the PS4 Pro replaceable?
    Q: Would Sony consider selling an external UHD Blu-Ray Drive?

    Thanks!

    • It cost Microsoft about $15 per unit to include UHD BD in the Xbone S.

      The “keeping costs down” argument is patently false.

  • Been a PlayStation fan for years and have every generation. This is because Sony tried hard and pushed the latest hardware possible. That is, until now with the PS Pro. Without the 4k blu ray, I’m not interested. It’s been a good run Sony! But I’m out.

    • Out for what? At this point PS4 is still the best hardware out for gaming. Why not just not get the Pro and keep playing the PS4.
      I’ll stick with the better games and leave the movies to a normal player.

  • I don’t need FAKE 4K!I want to play Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne at 1080P60FPS!!!!!!!!!!!!why not focus on 60FPS?????

    • I’m not sure what you mean by fake 4K.

      But if you read above, existing games (if their developers update them with a patch, which Uncharted is already listed and I’d assume Bloodborne will get that treatment as well due to it’s popularity) will be able to take full use of the console’s new power… meaning even if you don’t make use of the 4K aspects, it will still play these existing games at full 1080p60… as long as the developers update them to do so.

  • Surely you’ll patch in 4K Blu-ray support in the future?

    • It cannot simply be “patched in” with software because the system simply will not include UHD BD-ROM hardware at all.

    • Not entirely true. BD and UHD BD differentiates in 3 Points. CRC, Laser focus and power. Practical the only hard point is Laser Power and even this could be hacked if you can modify the voltage. A BD Laser maybe operates with 480mW and UHD BD uses 620mW.
      It might be not that difficult to upgrade the PS4 Pro BD drive. The real culprit for the missing UHD BD capability, is properly royalty for HEVC(H.265) and other stuff. Sony should simple offer a UHD license in the PlayStation Store.

  • i can’t believe you’re doing this playstation not having UHH 4K player. I’m a literally life time playstation supporter and i want to stay like that but this just turns me off man i know it might not be big deal some people but i just can’t get over the fact that it doesn’t have it. and i probably know why you’re doing this sony/playstation you just announced stand alone UHD 4K player therefore you’re not adding one into playstation 4 pro, because you’re not caring for your loyal customer you’re just thinking how to probably milk them more right. guess what I’m done with this crap. 3.5 years ago, xbox made a mistake that they were going to require DRM right and you quickly made a video showing that its so easy to exchange games and play them whenever you want it on playstation 4 right.. you were so quick to make fun of them right and now you’re putting us into that spot, when xbox tweeted a check list of everything that they had on xbox one s during your playstation meeting, they were freaking laughing at us, its shame on you sony playstation that you’re making people laugh at us.

  • Already pre ordered it. Going to trade in my current 500Gig ps4 to go towards it too. Can’t wait to get this puppy in my hands. I cannot remember the last time I actually hired a blu ray disc, so that doesn’t bother me at all, as long as 4K streaming becomes viable. It does however seem like a strange idea to make a 4K machine and not have a 4K drive in it. Really stupid decision.

  • Will there be any kind of trade-in policy or discount policy for people who already own the current PS4 model? Because if not, there is no way I can justify purchasing something that, from what I can tell, improves visuals and frame rate with a better hard drive.

    I’d like to get this system so I can have a better experience in PS VR when that releases… but only if I was able to get something out of my existing PS4.

    • Sony has never done a ‘trade in’ promo. Go to gamestop or any other retailer that gives credits for in store discounts.

  • People need to stop comparing the Xbox One S being $299 to the PS4 PRO. The S has weaker internals, but has a 4K blu ray disk player. The PS4 PRO has better internals, but lacks a 4K blu ray player.

    • The Pro’s internals are basically the same except for the GPU–which developers may not even really take advantage of if they are still being bound to the prior PS4 spec.

      So yeah, UHD Blu-ray would have been a nice value-add here.

  • A PS4 built around Sony’s 4K experience, however there is one catch… One can not simply put a 4k Blu-Ray in the drive and play it. How big of failure is this? Obviously not worth switching to xbox at this point, however Sony is setting them selves up to loose hard next console wave if they keep cutting corners.

  • VERY, VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THIS – If they use an AMD Polaris video card then theoretically it could be enabled with a simple check for FreeSync. Samsung has Quantum Dot HDR Freesync gaming monitors out now or soon (I know GSYNC is coming). If FreeSync is enabled it could remove the need for VSync and give to console a 20% to 30%? performance boost. Any thoughts about this???

  • To be honest Sony I’m a little disappointing by the PS4 Pro and most likely will keep using my day 1 PS4 for the following reasons: (1) Only 4.20 TFLOPS isn’t enough. Since it’s ATI Polaris shoulda gone for the R9 470 with about 5.0 TFLOPS. That would be great until PS5 hits in 2020 with what? 12-15 TFLOPS? (2) It’s ugly, those steps just don’t look good like the Slim does. (3) No UHD Blu-ray support seems like a half-way upgrade and just gives Xbots more to talk about. Even though I don’t play on getting a 4K TV anytime soon.

    At the very least I’ll be looking to replace my 3 year old Dualshock 4 with one of the new ones, hopefully stores will make it clear that it’s the new one in the box that you’re buying.

  • The Only thing I care about really is will this console finally support backwards compatibility for Disc-Based PSOne, PS2, and even PS3 games? I have a considerable collection of classic PS1 and PS2 games that, while I still have a PS3 and a PS2 Slim, it would be great to play them on all one console. Will this be possible?

    Also, if this is possible, can my Digital PS3 games be transferred to the PS4?

  • Being that its the same OS would I theoretically be able to take my 2TB out of my PS4 and put it in my PS4pro? thus circumventing any other form of transfer? That would be really hand!!! BTW love all this news Sony, way to be!!!!!

  • Sony: “We see a trend on video towards streaming.”

    Funny, that’s what Microsoft said when they lost the HD DVD/Blu-ray war. Yet they knew that wasn’t the case as you can see when they put one in the Xboxe One.

    I just bought a 4k tv because besides gaming, I love you watch movies. However many streaming services don’t offer content that I would care to watch in 4k, let alone pay for their 4k service. I still buy plenty of movies and plan to start buying them in the 4k format. I’m really bummed because I would have been more than willing to pay the extra for the PS4 Pro but now my money is going to a separate player for a 4k Blu-ray player.

    Unfortunately for Sony, from reading the comments I would say many (not all) gamers are not willing to buy a whole new system for the minor upgrades. I think the fact that Microsoft was smart enough to offer the 4k Blu-ray support in their system would have been a clue to Sony to also offer that support and help maintain their lead in this generation of consoles. I think they fell short on this one.

  • OMG people…get real…I own a Sony 4K TV with HDR and it upscales everything…and it is beautiful and yes even my 3D blu-rays player that plays slandered blu rays get a fresh and better look. All this talk of how the PRO will not have a 4K blu ray player built in is crazy..Save your self some money buy slandered blu ray disk ..put them in your PS4 PRO …and watch them come alive on your 4K TV… that’s that…I have put my money down to reserve mine already and I currently own a launch ps4..can’t wait…..Thanks Sony!!!!…Day one user!!!!

  • “Q: What is PS4 Pro?
    PS4 Pro is a high-end version of PS4 that is capable of outputting 4K graphics, HDR support,”

    This seems a bit misleading since the PS4 STANDARD EDITION will also be able to handle HDR (High Dynamic Range) as well. This will come by way of a free firmware update. Why not talk about that? Sony keeps making it sound like this is a PS4 Pro only feature when it simply is not.

    I’d like an answer as to why there will be no 4K Blu-Ray drive on the system which they are pushing as the ultimate 4K system by Sony.

  • And by the way, according to Mark Cerny, Sony already knew that 4K was something they wanted to support from the get go and the production team “was on top of designing the Pro even before the original PS4 started shipping”.

    If they knew they wanted to support 4K then why didn’t they at least include an HDMI 2.0 compliant port? The PS4 is more than capable of outputting 4K video (not games, but video). Even the $99 Amazon Fire TV can output 4K video and that’s around 1/10th as powerful as the PS4.

  • I don’t have a 4k tv so will it effect the framerate of what the Pro can do or not? I know the resolution will be at 1080p like my tv. I just want to know about the fps.

  • A premium HDMI cable should be included if you say it’s needed to achieve what you are advertising.

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