The Origins and Inner Soul of Salt and Sanctuary

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The Origins and Inner Soul of Salt and Sanctuary

The 2017 Game Developers Conference kicks off this week with the Independent Games Summit, and if all has gone according to plan, Michelle and I will have just finished delivering a postmortem of Salt and Sanctuary, our well-received 2D Soulslike that we launched nearly a year ago on PS4.

The hardest part about putting together a postmortem is figuring out how to cover years of work and what to even talk about. Michelle and I may have spent years of our lives designing, creating, polishing, iterating, redesigning, polishing, crunching, and polishing Salt and Sanctuary, but how do we figure out what the interesting parts were? After designing more than 600 weapons, armor pieces, spells, and items, drawing more than 10,000 sprites, animating and scripting more than 100 characters, and building a massive, seamlessly interconnected game world of a few dozen regions, it’s hard to know what’s interesting anymore.

So I did the smart thing: I asked you. More accurately, I asked Twitter. And we got a bunch of questions! Here’s what we learned:

We had some concept art. Because it’s just Michelle and me, I generally don’t do a lot of concepting — when there’s no discipline gap between concept and final art, it’s just a more optimal use of time to just start drawing game art. I did end up making some concept art when I was stuck on planes, which happens here and there. Michelle is much more into concepting. Her concepts are mostly digital though, and also done while traveling, or through her annual Monster of the Day project each October.

Our story had some origins. If nothing else, Michelle and I are geeks for A Song of Ice and Fire, and Salt and Sanctuary was loads of House Greyjoy: drowned gods, blessings of salt, and that cold, morbid philosophy: “what is dead can never die.” Otherwise, I’ve been pretty fascinated by pre-modern “science” — where the supernatural could be as much a candidate to explain the world as the natural. Much of the story and visual aesthetic came from medieval murals to ptolemaic diagrams.

I didn’t plan out a lot of the actual coding. There were times that I felt I should have, but after nine years of making very similar games, I kind of have a pretty tried and true technique, mostly revolving around tools.

I love to talk about tools. Imagine you were creating Pac-Man. How would you represent the world map? When you’re just starting out in Computer Science 101, text files made in Notepad are a great place to start:

There’s a simple system! “#” for walls, “.” for pills, “*” for power pills, “G” for ghost spawn points. I’ve used systems like this. Great! But what if we wanted to add some variety to the scenery? Lighting? A boss battle? Our ASCII system is great if we want to represent 4 or 5 simple things, but anything more complicated just blows it right up.

In the case of our ASCII Pac-Man maps, Notepad is a tool. And as far as tools for game content go, Notepad is rock bottom. So what to do? Make better tools!

Salt and Sanctuary took no fewer than eight discrete tools. A few of them were new for Salt and Sanctuary, and a few have evolved since The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai. The cornerstone is the character animation editor, upgraded for Salt to support skeletal animation.

Then there’s the sprite sheet atlas editor, the map editor, and the destructible objects editor, all updated from Charlie Murder. And new for Salt and Sanctuary are the dialog editor, loot editor, monster editor, and skill tree editor. That’s right: I’m so in love with these special purpose editors that I made one just for the skill tree, and I have no regrets.

Yeah, I like talking about tools. And it’s not hard to see why: maybe 90% of Salt and Sanctuary is just content that Michelle and I used those tools to make. And a lot of the game logic even emerges through the creation of these tools, like the code to render the map, skill tree, or animated character.

Jumping off is hard to do. The prototyping phase is a wonderfully free phrase of experimentation and laying groundwork: defining things like “what is a door?” “What is a boss fight?” “What is loot?” “How high do I jump?” Once that groundwork is laid, it gets really easy to make content, but really hard to fiddle with that groundwork.

For instance, let’s say I can jump a four-tile gap. Then — after building half of the world map — I decide that the game feels too floaty and I need to tighten up the gravity constant. But that change allows the player to jump a five-tile gap. Well, now I’ll have to audit the whole game up until that point to make sure I haven’t introduced any game-breaking new shortcuts (Speedrunners will know that such shortcuts still found their way in!).

Working with your wife is great. We are often asked what it’s like working with your spouse. It’s a bit like working with your coworkers, only more personal. You share not only your work but your life. It all blends together and when you’re doing what you love with the person you love, it’s amazing. It’s not without its challenges, but those we take like any relationship. Communication is key, and we’re not perfect, but we get better every day.

Paying homage to Soulslikes while still finding our own voice was a critical challenge. I looked at ways games exist on a common landscape: incredibly inspirational games like Dark Souls, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, and Ninja Gaiden Black existed alongside our own The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai, Charlie Murder, and what would be Salt and Sanctuary. Drawing from a landscape of concepts, themes, and mechanics, we were able to build a cohesive action game that drew the brawly feel of Dishwasher and Ninja Gaiden, the world progression of Castlevania, and the obscure lore and character progression of Dark Souls.

Some things went wrong. Self publishing may have given us more freedom than we were used to. In our early days, localization was all handled for us by our publisher; my job was just to make sure the game rendered it correctly. With self publishing, this responsibility to localize falls on us, and we hadn’t quite figured it out in time. I did implement all of the text rendering, and I set up some tools to automatically machine translate our text to test out the rendering, but we didn’t have proper translations. With a zillion other things to worry about and crunch over for launch, I guess I sort of convinced myself that maybe machine translations aren’t the worst thing. Well, they are. And we’re still fixing them. Sorry about that.

Some things were unexpectedly amazing. We could not possibly have predicted the level of excitement from gamers and support from streamers and content creators after announcing Salt and Sanctuary. We’ve always been very grassroots about marketing, more having to do with being terrible at self-promotion than any kind of intentional PR style. Having the support of streamers and YouTubers was so crucial. I don’t think Salt and Sanctuary could have been the success it was without these people. A huge thanks goes out to them.

Working with Sony was seriously great. Working with Sony was absolutely a transition for us. Before PS4 launched, we were a tiny studio that made exclusives on other platforms. But the new console generation brought a lot of uncertainty to indie developers like us (a lot of which was about our tech), and sitting down with Sony really made a fantastic impression.

Indie game developers struggle with motivation. This was a sort of meta-takeaway: while organizing the questions I got from Twitter, I noticed that a lot of them were asking how we kept motivated. My semi-reliable trick is to switch up tasks a bit when I get worn out, but I know this only works to a certain extent. At any rate, if you’re trying to make games and struggling with motivation, know that this is something we all deal with!

Finding motivation through other developers and even other creatives in other industries helps a lot. We always come away from game conferences, after meeting up with other devs, recharged and ready to get back to making awesome stuff.

Game development has some pretty insane ups and downs, but with hard work, perseverance, and a little bit of classic insanity, we’ll all pull through.

PS Vita owners are patient, loyal, and fierce! We’re sorry it’s taken so long. The port is being handled by another studio, but it’s still in the works!

It’s been a wild time in development and we’re still reeling post-launch of Salt and Sanctuary almost a year ago. Thank you so much to PlayStation and all the gamers who believed in us. Thank you for playing our game. Your support truly keeps us going.

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  • Is it cross buy with PS Vita?
    I am still waiting for the Vita version, but if it’s confirmed cross buy probably buy it now.

    • People should already own this game on PS4 it’s good. -_-

    • Hey James – so great to catch this on the Sony blog (must of missed it on FB!). I am so happy for you and Michelle with the success of S&S over the past year and eagerly awaiting (with patience and respect) the Vita port of this. My sincere hope is a fluid translation of controls that do NOT use the back touchpad. :-) In any case, thanks for this and all you do.

  • I am really looking forward to playing through this. I’m just waiting for the Limited Run Games release. I love having the physical version. May double dip for both Ps4 and Vita version, but will definitely will pick up the Vita copy. Keep up the great work

  • Loved Salt and Sanctuary, especially playing local co-op! Really looking forward to the vita version! Also just want to say I absolutely adore the dishwasher games, both of them were tremendously amazing! Ok I think I’m done gushing. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing this bit about the behind the scenes stuff!

  • Man, How is hard to be a Vita owner :(

  • I’ve been looking forward to playing this game, but I’ve been waiting for the Vita version. Will it be cross-buy?

  • I really loved salt and sanctuary, one of best 2016 games. I hope there is something similar coming up soon :)

  • Another Vita owner patiently waiting here! I have plenty of “big” Souls games to play on the PS4 and am looking forward to carrying a game in that style in my pocket.

  • Can’t wait to buy this when it releases for Vita! Bring it on ;0)

  • Great article and fantastic game. Way to take cues from dark souls but still deliver a very unique experience. Definitely one of my favorites of 2016!

  • Thank you for being patient with us (Vita owners). I can imagine it could get old when we respond to every tweet, post and long silence with “Is the Vita version still coming” or “When is the release date for Vita?”. You have been phenomenally responsive and courteous, and it’s much appreciated. As a dad, I have far more time available for gaming when I’m away from home, so even though I have a PS4, my Vita is where I do my deep games.

  • The biggest problem I have with Salt and Sanctuary is that there isn’t more of it. Definitely one of my top games.

  • People should already own this game it’s good. <3 Salt and Sanctuary for PS4, it's awesome.

    I own lots of Vita games, am a big fan of Vita. However a two person team with this talent I wish would be working on new things.
    Would rather see more content from the studio I could buy, then have a crossbuy.

    So patently holding breath for anything else from SkaStudios.

  • I love a second part of salt and sanctuary.

  • I had the pleasure of stopping by the salt and sanctuary booth at the psx that was in Anaheim in December 2016. You guys did an amazing job with this title and reading your input shows your thought process and you really sound like you love your craft.

    It was a real joy platinuming your game and I still rock your salt and sanctuary shirt and pin at my work. I really do hope to see more from this series and what else your studio will publish in the future. Just wanted to say thank you for this gem of a game.

  • Always loved your watching your work and I’m glad I now get to play them as well. Not only am I happy it’s coming to PlayStation, it’s coming to the Vita! Very happy! Looking forward to the Vita release! Thanks!

  • Man the games these 2 make are awesome!.If you have to try only two, i would suggest this one and dishwasher: vampire smile.Both are also awesome game to play in really looking foward any future project from ska studios!

  • Like many others, I’m patiently waiting for the Vita version. Will buy this the moment it hits Vita.

  • Thanks James for taking the time to write this postmortem. I bought your XNA book a few years ago and it got me into coding and making games. Thanks for being an inspiration and congrats on the success of Salt and Sanctuary.

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